Kann jemand mir erzählen wie es bei der NYC war ? (New York Central Railroad, von die Vanderbilts betriebene Eisenbahn.)

Die Behörde in New York haben schon um etwa 1910 Dampflokos in Manhattan verboten. (Und teilweise deswegen könnte die Grand Central Station errichtet werden)
Jemand hast mir erzählt das die Expresstrains wahlweise mit Dampf und Strom betrieben war.
/Sorry, I dont have time to rewrite this german Posting. I only thought that i might find a NYC fan her who can tell me all about it.) Pleas post youre reply in te german thread as well

http://www.miniatur-wunderland.de/commu ... 16682.html

Since Qrt doesn't have time, I will do it this time:
The New York authorities banned steam locos from tunnel access to Manhatten in 1910. Somebody told Qrt that express trains could alternatively use steam or current through the tunnel.

Can anybody shed some light on this?
Where there NYC Locos with steam-electricity combined in the same Locomotive ?

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Hi Curt,

I found this on the web: Hudson River Tunnel,

It is more related to the tunnel itself than to the NYC but maybe you can find some useful information in this article.

Take care,
Erhard

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Thank you, Erhard.
The origin of this Thread was a TV programme aired by the Educational channel on the channels of the Swedish Television.
It was probably the programme mentioned here:
http://trainjotting.com/category/william-j-wilgus/
But my question remains: Where there (are there) steam enginers who are also equipped with electric traction motors?
:off topic: BTW Erhard: After all these years of struggling in the german forum I repeatedly have to stop myself from writing capital letters on the nouns in my english postings.
I know. The speeling is incorrect. It should either say engineers or engines, whereby I should like to see an engineer with traction motors.

Curt,

I personally couldn't imagine such an engine but nonetheless forwarded your question to some NYC - guru in the States. As soon as I get a reply, I'll publish it here...

Don't worry about your spelling! As long as I can read your postings, everything is all right
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Take care,
Erhard

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Hi Qrt,

From another forum, I received the following reply to my question:
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To the best of my knowledge, the only pre-WWII steam-electric was the Heilmann, and it never saw the west side of the Atlantic.

NYC had already committed to third-rail straight electric operation, even before the politicians got into the act. The only place where unpowered track could be a problem was on the West Side line, and that was solved with on-board battery/distillate engined motors that could also draw power from the third rail. (The West Side line was also taken out of the streets, either on raised viaducts or in below-street-level cuts.)

New York City wanted the clouds of coal smoke over the railroad tracks GONE! I doubt that the idea of an idling steamer with motors drawing power from the third rail would have met with regulatory approval. (I'm certain that, once Grand Central was roofed over, it wouldn't have met with passenger approval either.)

Chuck (modeling Central Japan in September, 1964)
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Hope this helps,

Erhard

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Thank you Erhard and a thanks to the Guru as well.
I thought as much.
Somewhere someone sometime at least once must have tried to create such a dodo.

sincerely Yours
Curt

Sorry about reviving such an old thread, but I did find this: http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/swisselec/swisselc.htm

It's a Swiss steam engine (E 3/3) with a pantograph on the cab roof. The page states that the catenary powered resistors in the boiler, and that the conversion had been done because of a coal shortage.

Is it real? Or somebody's Photoshop excercise? I don't know. You tell me...

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Hi Juhana and welcome to the forum!
As to your question: I will cros-check and let you know the outcome in a couple of days.

Erhard

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